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What do you think about females in the military?

I want to know what everyone even if you are not military thinks about it. Saving lives firing weapons the whole she-bang. what do you think about letting them into combat jobs like 11B or even special forces and rangers.
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Didn't mean for people to be offended or think i was against it. I am a PFC medic in the army i just was curious about what peoples views were.


    




simple
If they want to fight, let them.


butterflyfiredana
I'm a female Marine in an MOS that is primarily male Marines. I have been to combat twice, during which I have been lead by some great Marines and also lead some great Marines. It's not about being a female or male in the military, it's about having heart and courage to be there and come through for your buddies and getting the mission accomplished.


Megs
I have always wanted to be on the front lines, however I understand SOME of the reasoning. I was told once that one (of the many) reasons women do not "belong" on the front lines are because men are often more sympathetic to women and out of nature would rush to there aid and possible compromise a mission or there own lives.

I think there is some truth to that I think.

Just my thoughts though.


Dark Shadows
Well being a veteran of the Army,and the Navy I was still in the Navy when they started putting women on non combat ships,now they are on combats ships as well fighter pilots,and many other positions just like the men.If the woman has the coconuts to do it just like men that includes special forces which I do not think is going to happen in my life time.Women save lives now look at the woman medic who received the medal of valor for saving her fellow brothers lives while under fire in Iraq,what does that tell you about women in service these are a new breed of women in the military with guts,and the determination as there fellow brothers,but lets be clear here there is also discrimination against women because of there gender as well, and the good old boys club that can not deal with the fact that women are among their ranks that is a fact.


Gabriel
Sure, just as soon as they make the standards the same. That means no earrings, no makeup, no french manicures, no long hair (cut it just like men), and the same barracks and showers. Most importantly have the EXACT SAME PHYSICAL STANDARDS. As of now, NONE of this is currently equal. Men are held to a higher standard. Women are allowed more body fat, slower run times, less pushups/situps/pullups.

I think women are perfectly capable, but most women who I know that argue the case don't even meet the same basic standards as men.


chiped_wood
As long as they are capable of the job they should do it just as much as the men!


The Scorpion
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No way they should be in direct combat roles. The Israeli Army tried that and it was a disaster. You have to understand the male mind-set, we are programmed to protect women and that doesn't work in real life combat with a female by your side. Plus, they don't have the physical strength to do the work involved in combat jobs which further drags everyone down.


Caninelegion
If the individual is physically and mentally capable of doing the job, then it should be open to them regardless of gender. However, I could not help noticing as an Air Force officer that the physical rules were lowered for females and that I am dead-set against. If females can do the job at a lower physical level then so can the men so the level should be lowered for all.

I believe that one reason used against combat missions that is somewhat reasonable (but should be a PERSONAL decision, not a regulation) is that an enemy is more likely to (being mainly male) do more unspeakable things to a female and that a living part of him can come home with the released prisoner.

EDIT: I see some things change little - back in the 80s I was given the ultimate insult of being called a liberal for expressing the above. BTW, anyone saying that a woman who wants to be in the military or in combat roles is "butch" has never been in the military. Both men and women are representative of society even if it is a bit skewed to non-urban folks.


aly k
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its really not my thing, but if a woman wants to do a job like that i believe she should have every right to. she has to be able to do it to the exact capablitily of a man though, and should not expect special privildges just because of her gender.


InfantryFisher'sGF<3
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I couldn't do it. But I think more power to you if thats what you want. As far as doing Infantry and Special Forces, if you can do the job right, then why not.


rich k
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I spent 20 years in the military, U.S. Navy, and was on active duty for both Nam and Desert Storm. I've worked with women, served under them and had them serve under men, and it's been my experience that have always shown the same dedication, loyalty, efficiency, and commitment as any other service member. While a 120 lb woman is not going to be as strong as a 240 lb man there is not justification for not letting someone serve to the best of their ability in whatever capacity they are best suited, no matter who they are.


milthistorian
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Interestingly enough, the stereotype of the interfering or weak woman who is a burden to her fellow soldiers persists despite truckloads of historical evidence to the contrary. Women have served in direct infantry combat roles in almost every major conflict in this century; and many guerrilla and resistance forces globally have a strong female component.

I see this role eventually opening to the daughters of the US, although not in the next five years I doubt it will be longer than twenty. The social forces that drive such changes are inexorable and already in motion, you can see them not only in domestic industry but already in the military, as stances taken on combat support roles have gradually eroded. More direct roles - including 19m, 11x,b,c and the rest - should all be open to anyone who can master the required tasks and wishes to serve. I also see the navy as opening the door first in this matter as they are the most integrated already. This may prove to not be the case as the army is close behind, but in any case expect it in the next couple of decades.


limatango
I think it's awesome that women can and are serving in the military; there are a few jobs, however, that for good reason women DO NOT belong. Rangers, PJ's(Pararescue) and CCT(Combat Controllers), are three examples.
1. The physical demands of the schools are so intense that most MEN wash out! Women would not be able to meet the standards, and if women were allowed into these careers the standards would have to be lowered for women to pass, and that defeats the whole purpose of Special Forces.
2. If women were to be allowed into therse careers, it could distract men from doing their jobs. A man might put himself, or a squad in jeopardy to save a woman, where if a man where in her shoes they would say "no" it's unsafe for us to go get him.
3. What would be the purpose of allowing women into Special Forces? Just to say hey looks at me, I'm a female in Special Forces?


Alex
I think its cool sh*t for all i no there are women out there stronger then men so wut the heck its a good thing


Rafael T
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i dont think they should be in combat roles because a male would be more inclined to protect the female than maybe a male who is in real danger. also if a female dies its demoralizing. females should also have to meet the same physical requirements as men, because then the training isnt as good for females and its not really fair. other than that im all for it.


♥Cali4nia Gal♥
My sister is in the marines.. and for one, I think it's crazy I wouldn'tt be able to live one week in there. Either way men and women are heroes to serve and protect our country. I send them all my blessings everyday.


Army Infantry Wife08
I'm all for women being in the military but not in Combat. I believe men should be the only ones in combat for the reason being, many men will drop everything to help a women who has been injured, while that is not a bad thing, it is bad when your in the middle of fighting and I guy can not concentrate because he knows a woman has been injured and all he can think about is saving her. Women are not in combat for a reason. I hope it stays that way.

Well the guy above me got what I was saying. Mine is just a repeat now. But he nailed it!


To Be
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I couldn't do it- but give those who can alot of credit-I like traditional male and female roles but do not apply that to others-everyone is different and it should be respected.


SSG Wells
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i think females occasionly bring up the morale, depending on who she is and how she acts


mrsjmarine
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i think it's more of a liability


fdm215
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I'm not in the military but I think women have valuable service to offer.


TheChad
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I am pretty sure women are not allowed to be in the front lines of combat. They can be at check points and patrolling bases and such. They are not allowed in special forces or special ops or rangers for good reason.
I am very open minded about women being able to do what jobs they want to do but you have to draw a line. Some jobs are just jobs that men should do, not women. I think that allowing some women to fight in combat is ok as long as they can fight like the men. I hate to see jobs given to women or minorities because everyone is afraid of a lawsuit.
If you really think about it we need women more than men to stay alive. Women are the bringers of life. I think this is some of the reason why men have traditionally done more dangerous jobs instead of women.


cheonsa
brave and strong


Izzy
If it's what they wish to do ^_^


McCain '08
I think it's great. There are many different area women could be used.


Aelous Natura
What's wrong with it? they have the same rights than men, they are smarter, and some are stronger than men so, why not?!


nicolerocksmore@rocketmail.com
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I'm going to boot camp in nov.
my friends call me a girly tomboy.
I'm as girly as they come, tons of clothesetcct.
most people say girls in thmilitaryry are,..um..butch. but in no way i am, and when i went to meps i saw other girls thawentnt.
i think it awesome!

if you are joining the military i suggest the navy,
myrecruiterr had viseos for me to watch on woman in the navy and everything.

i figured, if they have a whole video for just woman, than i bet they prolly treat us right,


ClaytonJ
If everyone without exception other than physical handicap is required to participate in military service, leaders may be more judicious about engaging in dubious conflicts.

While sons and daughters of Mainstream Americans are in combat, the President is planning and attending his daughter's wedding. Patriotism should have significance across the board.

Have had the honor of serving with females who fulfill the duties with distinction.

Semper Fidelis!


Joe from WI
I think females in the military is an important and notable statement for Girl-Power.





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