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Answers to your questions:
1. There was no molten steel found at WTC
QUOTE “In no instance did NIST report that steel in the WTC towers melted due to the fires. The melting point of steel is about 1,500 degrees Celsius”
From Point 7 in
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm
The towers collapsed because many supports were knocked out by the jets.
The fires then weakened (but did not melt) the steel until collapse ensued.
2. The fact that WTC7 collapsed even though it wasn’t hit by the planes is not surprising.
Even though they were NOT hit by the jets, numerous buildings over a wide area were hit by debris from the collapsing towers and were destroyed.
This includes: The Marriott World Trade Center , 6 World Trade Center, 5 World Trade Center, 4 World Trade Center, and St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church (which wasn’t even in the WTC complex). The Deutsche Bank Building was also outside the WTC complex & was massively damaged, and was declared a total loss in 2004.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_attack#Damage
As for WTC 7:
According to NIST "On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom — approximately 10 stories — about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out." See http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=5#wtc7
3. Flight 93 (Shanksville):
Although there were no intact bodies, over 1500 body parts were found, and most of the passengers were identified through the use of DNA. Mr. Miller later reported his findings on this.
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/05/loose-screw-2-coroner.html
Plenty of plane debris was found, the largest being an engine fan. |
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Pancakes
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*yawn*
All metal fatigues at 60% of their melting tempurature for more than 10 minutes.
Time for something a little more original. |
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crsimon36
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I think you are a nut job. You know nothing of the effects of heat on steel structures and anyone supporting your idea that it was an a planned explosion, engineers and architects included, also know nothing. Why the hell do you think fireproofing is required on steel structure 2 stories or higher? Get a life and grow up. |
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Robert C
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It's typical conspiracy theory nuts. Years ago these people were in institutions. Now they give them drugs so they can maintain in every day society. These are very naive individuals that are easily influenced. Next step is full blown schizophrenia. IOW, suggest you saw big foot and they not only believe it, they think they did too.
They will go to great lengths to convince others since if they can't, they realize they are not dealing with a full deck instead of being super insightful. Most of them has done this their entire life.
It's like this current guy that took hostages at Hillary's campaign office. The whole town knew he was a nut. Before all of this, he lead a campaign to prevent police from putting flyers in peoples' cars if the doors were unlocked explain how to reduce theft motor vehicle theft.
He thought it was a reason for them to search their vehicles. Typical paranoid schizophrenic. It always involves the government or a large corporation and is always some large elaborate plan verses the logical and most simple conclusion. Sad. |
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Dennis H
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Sorry but the towers fell because of failures in the steel - if you look real close at the collapse videos you can see the steel starting to bend.
Because the steel columns were hollow and had fuel spilled into them during the crash the columns became chimneys.
The physics of the situation are well documented even though the politics are a bit murky.
Flight 93 hit the ground vertically at over 500 knots. This is not the first plane to bury itself completely without a fire. It is the most famous.
Concentrate on the evidence that seems to point to a co ordination of the attacks with a series of exercises going on at the same time which confused the situation for military units that might have prevented the second attack. |
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derek k
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I guess you didn't see the planes hit the buildings. They were shown all over the news. |
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Hokie
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How many more times are you going to post this? And under how many different names? |
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Larry
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Not much why? |
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bootedbylibsx2
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Speaking of shocking, isn't it time for your treatment? |
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wraeth - PHA
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Oh wow a foreigner trying to tell us how our government conspired against its own people. Next time you want to act like a concerned American citizen, maybe you should learn the American English version of spelling, and not the European version. |
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Whynot
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You can do better than that. Better yet, why don't you do something constructive with your scientific talent like cure cancer or volunteer somewhere that needs you. Do you have any idea how hard it is for the government to plan even the simple things like road construction? Then you're going to suggest that they can secretly kill 3000 people and no one would keep any hard evidence such as memos, phone records, etc.??? It would leak to someone. |
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nesserz2.0
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i think im sick of seeing people post these on here.
end of story----IT HAPPENED. Dont try to make up some wacko explanation. we were attacked by terrorists. now we are at war. if you are the president someday (which by god i hope you are not) you can decide what you think happened and spread what you think it was.
until then.
just shut up. |
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citizenvnfla
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All these little videos showed me was that communists like you should move to Russia. You would be more with your kind. You are as full of sh** as the turkey that Hillary Clinton and Monica's boyfriend had for Thanksgiving. |
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mariner31
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I think very little of them... |
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Dave_Stark
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I think that they are a bunch of hogwash, assembled by idiots with no scientific expertise at all.
Anybody can call themselves "Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth", but that doesn't mean there is a single Architect or Engineer in the group -- just a bunch of jack@$$es with an agenda.
And, ooooh, "shocking videos". I've seen these "shocking videos" before, and they are utter garbage. Youtube is such an authoritative resource. And the rest are the ravings of deluded minds and empty-headed attention seekers.
Get a real life, you idiot. And don't forget to put your brain back in your head. |
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doctdon
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I don't think much about this crap anymore. What do you think about being considered another conspiracy theory nut case? Time for you folks to move to some other anti- american drivel. This stuff is worn out. |
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b52gflyer
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When are you going to get original and post some questions of your own instead of copy and paste previous questions? |
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erehwon
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I think I will not waste my time watching a second of any of them, take my easy 2 points, and move on. |
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TDAL
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i think its bull sh it and aims at taking down this great country of ours. anyone who agrees with it should move to IRAQ and go see how life is there. CURRAHEE!!!! |
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Old Scout
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You conspiracy theorists are just plain whacked out. |
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Ken B
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What do I think? I think you should stop listening to O'Donnel and Moore and get a real life. The conspiracy theories have ALL been debunked. |
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conranger1
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More Conspiracy Theorists Propaganda and Rants by a Rabid Anti 9/11 poster and as usual reported for the crap it is. |
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joseph b
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Just a question, what happens to steel at 230-250? Does it become softer and bendable? HMMM could That Cause structural failure? YEP!!!
Bldg #7, if hit by debris from a falling tower (debris that covered the whole island), could a burning piece of it cause a fire that wuld take down that building, especially considering water soruces had been reduced? YEP
Airplane debris? Well, if you could crush a building into several tons of powder, could the debris also be mixed with it? YEP
At the Pentagon, I thought I SAW PICS of airplane debris, so it was there. |
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ArmyWifey
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Bunk. There was a whole documentary on this the other night on the National Geographic or Discovery Channel (it was 2am, I didn't feel well and it's been a few weeks) and how the whole conspiracy theory is just that a theory. |
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Jennifer W
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I hate violence.
Jenny |
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dutchlady
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I didn't go to the links because I've seen enough of that tragedy. Just like looking at my parents in their caskets, I don't need a reminder that this horrible thing happened. One VIEWING OF ANYTHING LIKE THIS IS ONE TOO MUCH. Any implosion is sensational, but this one opened up a new history in America; one that isn't too pleasant and one that is ongoing. Enough. Let's look at nice things...think positive and rid our minds of negatives. |
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Ninja (AM)
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These conspiracy vids have been out there for a long time...I am sure one day the truth will come to light. |
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kittycat500
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They arent that bad!~ |
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Just Joshin
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Ya what ever theres a 9/11 conspiracy. You are right. Now what? gonna do something about it or not? go kill some government officials or something if you think they caused 9/11. Theres a million people yelling conspiracy but if you really believe it then try to bring them to justice or something. Right now they are laughing at your pathetic as$ saying "look at those morons wasting their time! they will never stop us anyway! ha ha ha!" |
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Curious
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I haven't watched all the videos yet....but I too wondered how the twin towers could have collapsed so like a controlled demolition (we've seen enough in the UK to know them).
People I have spoken with believe the US government blew these buildings up themselves and blamed it on others. We know governments do things like that at times.
I'm pleased it isn't being swept under the carpet...for the sake of those that lost their lives.
It was the most dreadful scene I have ever witnessed in my entire life, and I pray I never see such a sight again. |
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