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Shock and Awe
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You know the Marine was wrong for what he did if the video is true, but you never see a post around here about the troops we lose and anything. What about that? What about the videos on Al Jarzerra showing us taking IEDs up the wahzoo or getting shot by snipers. Or all the fake staged crime war crime ones they post. I currently work in JAG in the operational war sector and we investigated everything worldwide involving war crimes and such. I think human beings get put on the back burner for pets or causes. |
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desertviking_00
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Come on! Look at the video again. Use all of your senses. The "dog" isn't moving. Even when it's being held. It's eyes aren't blinking. It doesn't have it's mouth open while panting to cool down (dogs don't have sweat pores). When it is thrown you don't see any legs flailing. When it impacts against the ground you don't see any blood or any other signs of blunt force trauma. It's a stuffed animal! A toy! The sound of the dog yelping is being made by another Marine who is off camera.
However, the Marines involved should face punishment for violation of Article 134 of the Uniformed Code of Military Justice for actions which bring discredit upon the Marine Corps.
I read some of the other answers. I don't want any of those folks to ever appear in court as a reliable eye witness to a crime. |
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Malfoy's Mistress♥
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its still animal cruelity if he did it on purpose....
....he should be at least fined, not sure how much though b/c im not good wiht that sort of stuff. ... you decide! |
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oldmarine08
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If true and not something that was stagged, he should get reduction in rank and pay and brig time! |
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JB
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If true, and I hope it's not, then according to the article "There could be administrative action, nonjudicial punishment or a court-martial." I vote court martial. |
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Dillion Day
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No punishment. It was already dead. Most people dont realize how many feral dogs and cats roam Iraq and Afghanistan. Nobody (Iraqis) cares about these animals. You wouldn't beleive how many dead dogs are along the highways in Iraq. |
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blaster
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it doesnt matter what i think and it doesnt matter what anybody else thinks because none of us are in his chain of command..so theres no point in giving an opinion because its not like his chain of command is going to read it and be like "yeah blaster has a great idea" most likely whats going to happen is they will investigate and he will get busted down in rank, get some extra duty and get restrictions if hes found guilty. other than that its nobodys business
i swear its like people care more about that damn dog than about the humans getting killed in iraq (u.s. and iraqi) |
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krissy7490
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I think if that was real, its not going to matter what discipline he gets. Because his fellow Marines are going to be PISSED!!!!! Not only does something like that make them look really bad, but I know a lot of them really do love animals, especially puppies and dogs. If he stays in the Marine Corps he'll get his, no worries about that! |
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James M
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I think i answered 4 questions on this already, perhaps beating the proverbial dead horse, so to speak.
There are far worse things happening in the world today. For instance, the man walking into a wendys and shooting 3 people, the constant gunfights at college campuses, 6 bodies found in memphis and a torture of a helpless female for 6 hours at the hands of 2 teenagers, but yeah, lets lose our minds over a dog in the desert. You people are starting to make me sick. |
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replexgirl
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I wish he could be thrown over a cliff. He won't be, so I think a serious punishment (I'm just undecided as to what punishment) should follow. |
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dumber_dan
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The Military is capping people every day, but if it's a puppy people automatically put up "felony" on the thing. News flash people, there are worse things happening in the Middle East! Elementary kids are shooting AK-47's and suicide bombing tanks. A puppy surely can't grab more attention than that. |
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TKB
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umm not serious but, i think he should be thrown off a 30 foot cliff. that would do some good damage to his ankles and knees. cuz you know he'll try to land on his feet. seriously though, i think five years would be a good lesson. Just for the fact that he had it video taped and didnt care, pretty sick. |
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Iceman
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? where did it fall over a cliff?...looks like he just slung the puppy and it landed like 15 feet away from them..... thats not bad compare to what people here do to animals....i don't see the big deal.... |
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the devil wears camo
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should this turn out to be a true account and did indeed happen then at the very least the marine concerned should no longer consider himself a marine,charged with animal cruelty and tossed after the puppy,what a great example of a lean,mean,fighting machine,real hard case. |
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YouAgain
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If this is in fact true, actions need to be taken against the Marine in question, for multiple reasons.
1) This casts a negative light on the Marines, and military in general in a time when they're struggling to keep their public image afloat. Yes, the military is over killing people in Iraq (although capturing is their primary mission now, not killing), but that is expected of the job they are there for. No where does it say that part of their job includes "killing puppies" or "dealing with the overpopluation of ferile cats and dogs".
2) Cruelty towards animals is very indicative of psychopathic behavior. If you can kill a helpless animal with no guilt or remission, then you've got ******* problems. Again, this is different than killing insurgents. Insurgents are bad guys with weapons that are trying to kill you back...I don't ever recall seeing a puppy walking down the street carrying an ak-47 with the intent to kill.
If this soldier willingly and without cause did harm or injury to a defenseless animal, that had no intention of harming the person...then it is just as bad as killing a defenseless person. It shows the willingness and ability to hurt without guilt (if they can kill a puppy, it's not a far step to killin a person)...this is a bad quality in any military personnel with access to weapons and innocent civilians |
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mary k
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court marshall! |
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Unprotected Okie's
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The marine should move to Oklahoma. I reported my own case of criminal and civil abuse to the animals on my farm caused by the seismic co., to the Dept. of Agriculture Investigation Unit, and they refused to investigate, it was not in their dept. to help a farmer. |
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axsooted
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nothing, it was a dog. not an Iraqi child, or an Iraqi civilian. it was a dog.
"Blaster" is absolutely correct. when is the last time you heard this kind of outrage about anything in Iraq? it was a dumb thing to do and this KID wont get an award for "best human being on the planet" after this but, I say again, it was a dog not a child. puppy's are cute and so are kittens but they don't count more than human beings. |
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oscarsix5
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They are toast! I can almost guarantee that his two buddies will be busted and lose pay over their involvement in this video clip. As far as Skippy goes, his days in the Marine Corps are numbered, I'm guessing 90 days or less before he starts his new career of flipping hamburgers at his local McDonald's |
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JLyn
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I have a dog he could try to throw. I promise he won't be that easy.
Seriously, I think we should save the video, wait until he has a couple of kids, sit them down and show them the video. Unless of course, his mental illness is genetic. Then that might not be effective. The usual penalties for animal cruelty will have to suffice.
As for the other argument, that we are somehow more horrified that he threw a defenseless puppy off a cliff, do people really think that we would be less horrified to see a video of him throwing a human (iraqi or not) off a cliff? The only difference would be that he would already be in jail if his victim had been human. We're supposed to be fighting against the terrorists and the brutality they show for life in general, since when did we move to "can't beat em, join em"? |
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slushpile reader
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Another sick twist in our military. Shocking. Just goes to show, you can't judge a "hero" by uniform alone.
The guys should get a dishonorable discharge, and formally charged with felony animal abuse. |
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