When did the US last actually win a major conflict?
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When did the US last actually win a major conflict?
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They won the second world war with the help of the British, Canadians and Russians. I cant think of anything since. So why are they always making films about 'victory' and why do they never learn from any mistakes?
They have absolutely no chance in Iraq or Afghanistan because they are on foreign terrain. Additional Details Jeremiah - i apologise - they beat Grenada in the 1980's under Ronald Ray Gun.
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L a T e_f O r_D i N n E r``..``
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I agree with WWII.......but as you said that was with the help of allies. I have to agree with the answer that says 1776 (thereabouts) for a win with no help from anyone......... |
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Jeremiah
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Yes, we should have fought major powerhouses like Argentina (the Falklands, 1982) before you guys beat us to it. |
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Cicero
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I say to you Americans do not fall in to the trap set for you by the likes of Fish. People of his elk bait you deliberately, that want you to respond in a negative way.
The British, American, Canadians and others won the last war by a joint effort. You can make all sorts of claims about who did what and who didn’t. It was a long time ago; I salute those who took part, especially those who die fighting to keep the world free from the fascist. |
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Hurts so good
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The Russians had around 5 times more troops in Afghanistan when they invaded....and look what happened to them
Edit: lol...looks like you hit a nerve with some people. American army never learnt a thing from history. |
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Bryce F
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There are few wars that just involve 2 countries. Help of any kind of money,equipment, or even troops is common in most wars today. |
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Korky
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they wont as you say get a clear cut victory in Afghanistan or Iraq, America have helped win many wars/battles/conflicts,
but due to the fact that they were quite keen to let others take the sting out of the enemy first, and play a support role and make a small fortune to boot, then come in shinny bright and new for the glory of victory, as Napoleon said of the Scots Greys charging the guns at Waterloo with the Gorden highlanders , the best soldiers in the world so poorly lead, next to the British army the Americans are a close second,
the Mighty Quin is more right than wrong and I retract any defamatory remarks i have made undermining the yanks, we are Allie's we should channel our thoughts and energy's to support the troops of all nations fighting against oppression never mind the politics, |
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the devil wears camo
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first thing i have to say is that I'm ex-Brit military and having served for 23 years and 265 days i think i can answer this from experience rather from an armchair,no country goes to war and wins it without support from another country in some form or another and to those who say that we Brits won the Falklands conflict on our own clearly were never there to see it,if not for the assistance rendered by the USA our special forces would not have had the equipment they did,without American intell we would have been blind in some major areas,with regards to WW2 ,this was a joint effort by all concerned and who cares now who did what,i think the victory films reflect the actions of the USA in the south pacific and i do not remember any British being present when old glory was raised at Iowa jima nor being involved in any other area of the Philippine's,im not sure why you mention foreign terrain as thats where most wars are fought and to say they have no chance in iraq or afghanistan is way off base,do you think we stand a better chance without america,of course not so why mention it,the only people going on about involvment anywhere that america is /was involved in are british personal that have no concept of war,how its fought or the need for allies,vietnam is a stupid example to quote as that war was lost in the halls of congress and not by the soldier on the ground much the same as the reason we pulled out of northern ireland,vietnam was 10 years,northern ireland went on for 30 before some spinless politician decided to bow to public pressure and do deals,when we fought in the far east during the 60s we had american equipment ,we got the same help during the conflict in northern ireland,they help us and we help them,live with it. |
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WhiteyBoy
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well probably the americian civil as they couldn't lose, the war of independance, they would of lost, if france and spain and the dutch republic,had not joined and blocked the ports and harbours, every other war they lost or had help.
they lost vietnam, korea tie, ww1 and ww2 help from allies
iraq and afghanistan they can't win without the british |
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Joe Snuffy
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Wow dude, have a little faith. Korea was pacified. We had the Panama incursion(sweet little regime change by the way), the Gulf War(arguably still going on as operation Iraqi Freedom), and Grenada. Your negative words hurt America by the way. The troops hate people like you. Just to let you know... |
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Cimon
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Major conflict?None...minor conflicts,yes(Mexico 1848,Spain 1895)
Wars of Independence are never won without some degree of foreign assistance like intervention,supply of money or arms or both...or so history tells us. |
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mowhokman
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Vietnam was a victory militaraly but it was lost on the home front. Communisim didnt take over there till after the americans pulled out. |
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robert c
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On it's own against Spain!Teddy Roosevelt and all that!!Before that Mexico! |
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The Violator!
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You're right - 10 points for your observation!
Juggernuts: get an education, British empire forces greatly outnumbered those of the US actively engaged with the enemy all the way until 6th June 1944. And that is not in any way to denigrate the efforts of their forefathers who did the fighting.
Shatnerp: we BOUGHT that stuff and are STILL paying for it, thanks - and without people like Prescott Bush funding Hitler, he would probably not have been in power in the first place, never mind been able to bring blitzkrieg warfare to London. It was one of many cases where US money and arms were turned against it - in fact it's a running theme.
It was the same international bankers in collusion with the CIA and mafia who put strategic North Vietnamese targets out of bounds, as well as funded the Northern war effort... war has been an unhealthily profitable business for some US organisations.
I think the USA has learned very different lessons from warfare to the UK and Europe and is extremely gung ho about it - I fear history will hold a massive bloodletting in store for them unless they learn a very different type of thinking... their policy has always been about escalation at the expense of discrimination - the opposite of ours. |
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Ron B
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Golly, I just don't know...Thank God for all our "helpers" otherwise the U.S. would just be a second-rate power yearning for the good old days of "Empire" building. Boy, that "foreign terrain" stuff is confusing, it's not like Kansas at all.
Edit: I suppose the single handed defeat of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics in late 1991 doesn't count...Much to the chagrin of Al-Jazeera (I mean the BBC). |
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68w
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We won in WW1 and WW2.
Korea is a country today because of us.
Kosovo is a country today because of us. We stopped a genocide of Muslims there.
Afghanistan defeated the Russians because we armed them. |
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yjpper
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I think there's mostly been multiple countries involved in major conflicts like France and Vietnam (although I seriously doubt you go to French forums and chide them for that), even up to the War of Indepence where we some help for others.
I'm wondering why British people sit around and worry about this all the time. You guys are obsessive whiners, even worse than Middle Easterners who hate us. In fact, that's what your population sounds like constantly demonizing Americans and the USA |
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Hilts
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Not even 1776-1783, as some Americans think.
http://www.yorktownpatriot.com/article_223.shtml |
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darrell m
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well let's see Korea,Vietnam,Haiti,Panama, Iraq twice.
well fish tell me at what point did the NVA,or Vietcong beat the US Military? the closest they ever came was Tet,and they still ended up losing that one. Vietnam was lost after the US withdrew, learn a little about history, and not what you hear from liberal hippies,and anti-war losers who have no idea what they are talking about. go find a Vietnam Vet and ask him how many times the NVA,or Vietcong beat his unit. |
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ssj 4 pluto
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without the help of anyone probably war of 1812 or the tripoli war |
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Wal
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Its not our falt you are slow Jeramia |
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opal1331
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Without the help of others? 1776 |
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shatnerpossum
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Desert Storm- 1991
The Violator: If we hadn't been sending the Brits supplies, weapons, and vehicles, they would have been destroyed very quickly. And US forces led Allied troops in the Normandy breakout. Not to demean Commonwealth troops, but the US forces were primarily responsible for victory in the west. |
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Mary Jo W
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WW II |
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Juggernaut
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In World War 2 The British or the Canadians barely did anything. The Russians only managed to kill the nazis because it was so cold in Russia and a lot of nazis died because of it. The U.S. traveled to Europe on and still kicked Hitler's ***. |
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