When i was in the marine corps 27 years ago, drill instructors would beat some recruits up during boot camp..

myself, for an example, my belt buckle accidently fell in some shoe polish. the DI brought me in the whiskey locker (closet), closed the door, choked me with just 3 fingers, he was recon, i couldnt breathe until he punched me hard in the stomach. another time, we had a hard day of traing, it was chow time, we were told not to look around but eat your food, i looked around a bit, and got caught, and the DI whispered in my ear, "you are done". thats against the law, he wasnt suppose to deny a recruit his meal. another DI told me to hold my weapon at port arms, i done it and he slapped my weapon and the weapon hit my face hard and it was swollen for a week. in the gas chamber we were instructed to remove our mask, say name/rank/serial number and walk out with your mask off. as i was leaving, the DI grabbed my arm and told me to "stay awhile". my question is, how all this is suppose to make a better fighting man? the USMC is an american institution that allows violent behavior and hides it

jbare999

Well, they aren't allowed to put their hands on you anymore, although the mental abuse is much more effective than physical abuse.

They have to put recruits through hell to see how they perform under real stress (like going on patrols in Iraq).

I don't exactly agree with it, but it's a necessary evil.

chimpus_incompetus

The Pentagon changed its policies concerning corporal punishment of recruits about 30 years ago after several recruits died due to punishment administered during training.

bluesax2000

what did you think was going to happen when you were told not to look around and you looked around? you got less you really deserved. you probrably got others around you in trouble for these incidents. If you were in my platoon, I would have blanket partied your ***!!! Lastly, remember this... we didn't promise you a rose garden!!!

MadMaxx

I would say... to show you that little things like a shot in the stomach, rap in the face or going a hungry may bother you, but it's not going to kill you! Lest we forget getting yelled at from 2 inches away and the shower of spit... makes ya think faster on your feet, motivates and makes you be able to understand what a person is saying when they're yelling at you. there's not a whole lot of whispering going on during a battle... make sense?

Mike M

It's so you'll learn to follow orders immediately without question no matter how stupid you think it is.You don't always no what the bigger picture is.Sound to me like you wasn't able to hang.

GreenBeansRevenge

they claim to have adopted a more modern approach where they are not allowed to hit them and other safety and respect rules.

so says PR.

Bob Loblaw

A buddy told me this story. The DI made everyone stand at attention right a revelie. One guy had morning wood that came out of his boxers. The drill instructor walked up the him and slapped downward real hard on his pecker and said, " put that damn thing away".

This same buddy said he was hit during boot camp. It makes yall tough. They didn't hit us in the Air Force.

sgreger1

Yah they stopped doing that a long time ago, actually more than 27 years ago I believe. However yah the marines are looking for a few good men who aren't little girls. By doing this to you in boot camp you lose all respect for yourself and all pride, your sould is broken. Then later on they rebuild you witht eh mindset that you are elite and have been through so much that you are now indestructable and that you should have the highest level of pride concievable. Works very good as you can see the marines have been very effective in war time combat.
Nowadays no hitting (although a little jab here and there could slide, since only pu$$ies tell on them for it) but no hitting and there is even a limit to the # of drops (push-ups) they can make you do, although they can choose to not count properly lol.

wingshooter08

I was in the Corp 39 years ago in Nam, and it sound slike you were one of those whinners in Boot and made it hard on yourself. Dicipline is their key and it works and has for well over 200 years. "the USMC is an american institution that allows violent behavior and hides it"....is this an oxymoron or are you? And the old way is the best way, not what they do today!

Deus V

That sounds scary!

igive2shhhhhhhhhhhhh

that was 27 years ago. from my understanding things have changed. they are not allowed to call woman names any more. they might have felt it would make men and woman out of their soldiers.

pedohunter1488

Sounds like someone was a screwup and wimp. In the navy we stayed in the gas chamber until we could say out name, rank, serial number and then 3 of the general orders.

Wolfgang92

Quite simply put, make sure when the Al Qaeda executioner (or in your case Viet Cong) is slicing your head from your neck, be sure and ask him to sharpen it so it doesn't hurt as much. In other words, tougher training makes tougher Marines.

Remember ol Chesty, "Let no man's ghost say, if only my training had done its job."

Now that I think about it, yea, you probably never were in the Corps. I call BS. If you were in the Corps, I'll eat my cover. Of course you probably don't know what that is, right?

artlogical

27 years ago, conventional wisdom was that fighting men were fighting men - and tough, and nothing bothered them, and they didn't have to worry about petty little complaints, and so on.

And then there was the internet. A world revolution of information and news. Everybody scrutinized for everything.

Somehow, the conventional wisdom has changed to be that a soldier can do his job without being a bully, violent, or uncaring. That's great, and I find it true.

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