Why do SOME Americans think the Battle of Britain took place AFTER the United States entered the war?
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Why do SOME Americans think the Battle of Britain took place AFTER the United States entered the war?
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instead of in 1940, when it actually did take place?
I am not saying that ALL Americans think this, as most Americans know it was fought in 1940, but why does that small minority think that the Battle of Britain took place after their entry into the war?
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rukidding
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Please! SOME Americans don't even know when WWII was! You can't expect them to know the particulars, then, can you? (I'm an American teacher, so I know of what I speak.) Sadly, we DO teach very little history, American history or otherwise. |
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lestermount
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Most Americans are ignorant of any history, even their own, let alone the history of the U.K.
I am sure it is not a small minority who think this way, but a vast majority, who either did not take a history class in school or slept through it. |
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Mercer Devil
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They know the Battle of Britain took place during WWII, but they don't realize WWII began before the US entered it. |
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pablo escobar
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I see your point.
I bet you would love to go to america to see what version of history they are taught in there schools.
It does seem that they think the war was won by them with a small amount of assistance by us.
It pains me that they seem to think it is O.K. to re -write history in their image.
don't you just want to punch them. |
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Mr Hyde
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Some of them think nothing of importance happened until they were involved. The truth is most things of importance happen when they are not present.
Edit : To the dumb *** that said the US banned slavery before we did , we banned it throughout the Empire in the 1830s and NEVER used slaves in Britain . Your lovely Thomas Jefferson kept slaves and even got one or more pregnant . That was while he was preaching that all men are equal . Read some history you ignoramus . |
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Mark F
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Some American's, a shocking number actually, do not know we share a 3,000 mile long border with a country named Canada.
I wouldn't get to worked up about what some American's don't know. |
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Big Yin ;-)
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Well they also seem to think they saved us?That the entry of the U.S was the turning point of the war?It is true that britain needed american help in supplies and war materials BUT the idea that the war was won single-handedly by the U.S is ridiculous.They have their own version of everything...ive heard at least 24 americans (out of about the 40 odd i think i've met) say the slave trade had no part in american history(& i never even asked all of the americans ive met about it so i shudder to think what their taught lol)
EDIT : Lol we all know that because we have a bloody decent educational system here in Britain & yes you were genorous but thats no excuse to be so ignorant.
EDIT:Well i'm not sure where exactly you got that from but William pitt (British youngest PM 1783-1801) called for it's immediate end in 1792,14 years BEFORE slavery was abolished in New jersey(the last palce in the NORTH to abolish it).Slave imports were Banned in the U.S but not the internal slave trade, nor involvement in the international slave trade externally.It WASN'T untill 1865 that AMERICA at last fully abolished slavery. In 1807, following many years of lobbying by the Abolitionist movement, the British Parliament voted to make the slave trade illegal anywhere in the empire. Thereafter Britain took a prominent role in combatting the trade, although it took another generation before slavery itself was abolished. Between 1808 and 1860, the West Africa Squadron seized approximately 1,600 slave ships and freed 150,000 Africans who were aboard.[50] Action was also taken against African leaders who refused to agree to British treaties to outlaw the trade, for example against "the usurping King of Lagos", deposed in 1851. Anti-slavery treaties were signed with over 50 African rulers.[51]
Seems to me that you yankees were involved for longer than we were eh?But anyway not the subject |
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Jeffrey K
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People don't learn their history anymore. Most Americans could'nt even tell you who the vice president is! |
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hironymus
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Since History is not really taught in schools any longer, many Americans don't even know there was such a thing as WW 2. |
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r1b1c*
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Seriously hope that by "some Americans" you are referring to United Statesians only, most Americans from Canada to Argentina know that it happened in 1940... "Never in the history of mankind, did so many owe so much to so few..." |
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spider1138
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Because they`re c..nts. |
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runforfree
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In the Wounded Knee Massacre, on December 29, 1890, 500 troops of the U.S. 7th Cavalry, supported by four Hotchkiss guns (a lightweight artillery piece designed for travel with cavalry and used as a replacement for the aging twelve-pound mountain howitzer), surrounded an encampment of Miniconjou Sioux (Lakota) and Hunkpapa Sioux (Lakota). The Army had orders to escort the Sioux to the railroad for transport to Omaha, Nebraska. One day prior, the Sioux had given up their protracted flight from the troops and willingly agreed to turn themselves in at the Pine Ridge Agency in South Dakota. They were the very last of the Sioux to do so. They were met by the 7th Cavalry, who intended to use a display of force coupled with firm negotiations to gain compliance from them.
The commander of the 7th had been ordered to disarm the Lakota before proceeding. During the process of disarmament, a deaf tribesman named Black Coyote refused the order to give up his rifle because he did not understand the order to disarm. This set off a chain reaction of events that led to a scene of sheer chaos and mayhem with fighting between both sides in all directions.
By the time it was over, more than 200 men, women, and children of the Lakota Sioux had been killed. Twenty-five troopers also died during the massacre, some believed to have been the victims of "friendly fire" as the shooting took place at point blank range in chaotic conditions. Around 150 Lakota are believed to have fled the chaos, with an unknown number later dying from hypothermia.
Raylsback bet your one of the guys Sarah Palin described you know the ones who watch pro ball with the six pack. Or were you Private Pyle in the USMC - you fat piece of **** - your *** looks like 150 pounds of chewed bubble gum. |
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Bonkers!
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this seems like a bizarre thing to be concerned about. there are probably just as many americans who don't even know where britain is, or that england is part of britain. why be concerned about this group.... |
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Pete T
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Maybe they weren't taught about it in school. |
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Neil T
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Never heard this one before.
United States contribution:
The RAF recognises 7 aircrew personnel who were from the United States of America as having taken part in the Battle of Britain. American citizens were prohibited from serving under the various US Neutrality Acts. Americans either misled the British authorities about their origins, claiming to be Canadian or other nationalities at war:
Plt Off A G "Art" Donahue served with No. 64 Squadron RAF. He was killed in action on 11 September 1942.
Plt Off W M L "Billy" Fiske probably the most famous American pilot in the Battle of Britain, although due to the neutrality of the United States he pretended to be a Canadian. Fiske saw service with No. 601 (County of London) Squadron and claimed one (unconfirmed) kill. He crashed on 16 August 1940 and died of his wounds on the 17 August 1940. He is played by Tom Cruise in a film, The Few which has not had a good reception from surviving Battle of Britain Pilots.
Plt Off J K Haviland served in No. 151 Squadron RAF and was the only American Battle of Britain pilot to survive the war.
Plt Off V C "Shorty" Keogh flew with No. 609 Squadron RAF, but was posted missing in action on 15 February 1941.
Plt Off P H Leckrone was with No. 616 Squadron RAF but killed on practice flight 5 January 1941 with No. 71 Squadron RAF.
Plt Off Andy Mamedoff flew with No. 609 Squadron RAF, but was killed in action on 8 October 1941.
Plt Off E Q "Red" Tobin had joined the French Air Force but not flown in anger before the Fall of France. He flew with No. 609 Squadron RAF, but was killed in action on 7 September 1941 with No. 71 Squadron RAF.
Ultimately three squadrons of RAF pilots from the United States, known as Eagle squadrons fought with the RAF, although the first (No. 71 Squadron RAF) became operational in February 1941, well after the main daylight battles.
An additional two American pilots are recognised by the Battle of Britain Historial Society, Fg Off E deP Brown and Flt Lt C R Davis (KIA 6 September 1940). |
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reds0x804
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eh SOME people feel asleep in history class |
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lemontreesp
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i never knew any "American" that talked about WW2 not know that
weird that you would take offense |
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GunnyC
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Because schools are too busy teaching other things then history in history class. Of course I could also ask why some British citizens think that Britain would have won the war without any American or Russian help. I would think that the answer about the US and slave trade should be researched further; the US was was founded after the Revolutionary War was won and the importation of new slaves was forbidden in the Constitution. The simple fact is slaves were for the most part brought into the colonies that became the US later by British, Dutch and Spanish ships primarily and since it was a colony of England imported to support English citizens. For the attitude about the US ending slavery in 1865 it would look better if England had outlawed it in the UK itself and the rest of it's colonies prior to the early 1850's. The US had slavery for less then 85 years of it's existence and how long was it legal in England and it's colonies? At least 200 years while the US was a colony and before that and after. The fact is that technically the US did not involve itself in the slave trade. |
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RayIsBack
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No we know you call it the battle of Britain and you feel you won it Specking of the ''victories'' you won in 1940 may I also inject there was Dunkirk June 1940 The day after Mr Churchill said ''we shall never surrender...carry on the struggle....until in God good time,the new world with all it's power and might,steps forth to the rescue and liberation on the old'' 4 jun 1940 How many Brits know these words today?
Mr Churchill said what we [yanks] did for you was the most generous act in the history of the world I well not go on as I lived over the pond and know how painful this is for y'all
Hola Pablo so you feel like punching us do you Bring it on but we punch back poco Now I'm mad Mr Churchill also called Dunkirk a miracle Ho yes cut and run leave supplies untouched for the Germans some miracle There is a rewrite of history and it's not the yanks This is no way to talk to your rescuers and liberators and if you don't like those words take it up with Mr Churchill
You down there don't try and deflect and talk of slavery we can talk of Mr Blairs apologising for your involvement later and i would just love to talk of your treatment of the American Indians when you were in power It was the British commander in America that talked of giving small pox infected blankets to the Indians Would love to talk of your betrayal of them in both wars ';''use them and turn your back on them'' but it gets reported off the U K site
Good job Gunny C all is quite on the U K site amusing little guys These little guys sure like to call names Last time I had dealings with these types was in the 3rd grade |
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