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Why do the Americans Start wars and then ask Euopean Contries to back Them up...?

As an Ex English Soldier (15 years service)
They are a big Country and should fight their own wars
Our Lads and Girls are loosing their lives for a country that starts the wars
Do they actually care about Our Services at the end of the day?
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@row kit

The "British Armed Sevices" im sorry

But you can think what you want ,I have seen active service for 7 out of the 15 years i served and i think it is time for you to mop out ...


    




It's only castles burning
I quite agree. As a British patriot, Britain's slavish willingness to follow America into any old crackpot war needs to stop. Blair is the worst culprit. What respect did he earn from his counterpart? "Yo Blair".

Bring back British troops from Iraq and Afghanistan - two wars which will ultimately lead to the kind of failure that the USA suffered in Vietnam.

By the way, ignore this nonsense that America has been our 'saviour'. They helped, but what saving there was was very self-interested on their part.

There are also many Britons who will never forgive or forget how the Yanks forced us into the pitiful surrender to the IRA, either.


lone butcher Spartan remembers
Well:
- America doesn't need your help, Britain helped because they are an ally of the USA and the chose to.
- Yes the USA is a big country, good thing Britain is the USA's close friend.
- Lads and girls lost lives for the US war? Hm, my grandfather knew men who lost their lives fighting in WWII for YOUR grandfather's a$$.
- Yes, we do appreciate Britain's help in this war. Do you appreciate the US help in WWII?

I respect you sir, but honestly, you can't think that America hasn't done anything for you while you have done everything for America.
I as an American, am proud to have Britain as an ally. Wish you'd say the same about my country.

EDIT: To all who say that America entered WWII too late to be saving anybody: Who the f*ck took Normandy? Britain lost about 450,000, USA lost about 430,000. If you want to say that the USA didn't help you then subtract 430,000 from what strength you had left when USA entered. Then see how well you would stand against the Nazi. Or how fast you would fall.


Kaz
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Cheerio mate! So why didn't you guys start a war against terrorism? Someone has to fight for freedom... if you're not brave enough to step up to the challenge, we will! Just try not to complain about it while following us ok?

Here's a quote for you...
"This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave." ~ Elmer Davis


snowcone
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You got some bollocks, friend


Summer's mummy
they backed us up (I know it was only after pearl harber but still) I think we are right to back them up we are good allies for each other, and stand stronger together, they will back us up again if we need it, and Americans did not start the war, they had no choice


Crowkit
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"As an Ex English Soldier (15 years service)
They are a big Country and should fight their own wars"

Strange. A member of her Majesties armed services, referring to himself as an 'English soldier' as opposed to being a member of the Army, Royal Navy or RAF.

There is no differentiation between English, Scottish, Irish or Welsh when talking about her Majesties armed services.

'They are', 'their own wars' ?

This chap is clearly not a former member of the British military. In fact its probably way past his bed time.


webned
You mean like World Wars I and II? I don't disagree with you concerning Iraq, but if you don't think your country has an interest in Pakistan or Afghanistan you'll probably get more buses blown up.


teacher
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I agree. America should stop asking us for help. But who is more the fool? Them asking or us saying "yes" ?


chrisford64052
It's funny how Europe has forgotten the past 200 years.


hh
Now who asked us to back them up in WWI and WWII O yea....


Yeah right!
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Money! and control of natural resources.

BELOW ARE THE COUNTRIES THAT AMERICA HAS INVADED

Much are in violation of international law, licence to kill.
In the last 40 years America and the CIA have carried out over 3, 0000 operations and over 10, 000 minor operations. Resulting in a MINIMUN of six million people killed, mostly from the third world.

1, China 1945 – 1960s
2, Italy 1947 – 1948
3, Greece 1947 – 19050
4, The Philippines 1940s & 1950s
5, Korea 1945 – 1953
6, Albania 1949 -1953
7, Eastern Europe 1948 -1956
8, Germany 1940s
9, Iran 1953
10, Guatemala 1953 – 1954
11, Costa Rica Mid 1950s
12, Syria 1956 – 1957
13, Indonesia 1957 -1958
14, Western Europe 1950s & 1960s
15, British Guyana 1963 – 1954
16, Soviet Union 1950s & 1960s
17, Italy 1950 – 1970s
18, Vietnam 1950 – 1973
19, Cambodia 1955 – 1973
20, Laos 1957 – 1973
21, Haiti 1959 – 1963
22, Guatemala 1960
23, France/Algeria 1960s
24, Ecuador 1960-1963
25, The Congo 1960 – 1964
26, Brazil 1961 – 1964
27, Peru 1960 – 1965
28, Dominion Republic 1960 – 1966
29, Cuba 1959 – 1980s
30, Indonesia 1965
31, Ghana 1966
32, Uruguay 1964 – 1970
33, Chile 1964 – 1973
34, Greece 1964 – 1974
35, Bolivia 1964 – 1975
36, Guatemala 1962 - 1980
37, Costa Rica 1970 -1971
38, Iraq 1972 – 1975
39, Australia 1973 – 1975
40, Angola 1975 – 1980s
41, Zaire 1975 – 1978
42, Jamaica 1976 – 1980
43, Seychelles 1979 – 1981
44, Grenada 1979 – 1984
45, Morocco 1983
46, Suriname 1982 – 1984
47, Libya 1981 – 1989
48, Nicaragua 1981 -1990
49, Panama 1969 – 1991
50, Bulgaria 1990
51, Iraq 1990 – 1991
52, Afghanistan 1979 – 1992
53, El Salvador 1980 – 1994
54, Haiti 1986 – 1994
54, Yugoslavia 1999
55, Afghanistan 2002 and still there for the opium
56, Iraq 2003 and still there for the oil

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enWDthX7SFU
(CIA World war 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aoihQtyRYo
(Who funds wars)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7t_u641NyM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0GWoxbMs1k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVDCXpSD6Fk
(Oil reason for war)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rff8aduPHg4
(Fallahga)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tKVDvl1WG4
(Perl Harbour truth)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NpdaQRGSv0k
(Censored war)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWLjXDtAvAY
(Troops contaminated)
http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/video/090408.htm
(Solders vaccinated)


ArmyChemo
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Why do europeans get into wars needing American manpower and supplies in order for them to keep from speaking German?


Jerry
Who saver your sorry a@@ in 1917 and 1941? It wasn't the French. Thank the USA you're not speaking German today.


Inca Yebail - The 6th profit.
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This issue is fantastically complex. The USA is effectively controlled by big business. One of the key businesses is Lockheed Martin (an arms manufacturer) who exercises a great deal of influence over US political activity. It's a long story! The USA doesn't actually starts wars by choice; they are forced to either create or join in conflicts from the demands of one arms manufacturer! It's a process called political engineering. It's all about making profit. Money & profits are the only things that matter in this society. The good people of the US, are CONSTANTLY having it drilled into them by their media that they are starting / joining these wars to fight oppression and maintain democracy: while it is they who are doing the oppressing and killing that very democracy. In the 1950's it was discovered that humans can be told absolutely "anything" by the TV. Now, however, most of the planet has progressed into a form of capitalism that doesn't need warfare to sustain itself. The USA, however, hasn't. That is why they start wars, because their economy needs it.

And no, the lives of the people who get killed mean absolutely nothing to these people. Just look at how many of their own they killed on 9/11. Anybody who still thinks that 9/11 was done by terrorists should turn off their TV and start to think again. The skill will come back after only a short time.

Regarding WW2. Hitler got the money to build a massive war machine from Prescot Bush, GW Bush's grandfather. Then to get American aid in defeating Hitler England had to take on a fantastic debt - to the US - and also give up India aas a part of the commonwealth. I have even considered that WW2 was engineered, by America, to break up the Britiish empire. All the evidence points at that being the case. Like all the evidence points at 9/11 being an inside job.

This whole concept of countries "helping out" in warfare is ludicrous. Warfare regenerates capitalism: that's what it's for! Nobody helps anybody out, governments join wars to create work for their people! Soldiers get killed, hence considerably fewer unemployed! It's got nothing to do with "helping out!" The only beneficiary is this society, that has nearly everything being owned by almost nobody.


zed leppelin
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We are allies, stupid.


Croaker
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iraq was a mistake.

afghanistan is not. under nato agreements countries in nato were obligated to come help the US.


Dan in Miami
*** laughing my AZZ off ***

In 1914, and you "lads" were getting cut to pieces by the Kaiser's troops in the trenches . . . . WHO came to help you out?

In 1940, when you "lads" were getting their azzes shot out of the sky by the Lufwaffe . . . and WHO came to help you out?

MAN .. . . did the German bombs effect your memory, sir?

WE saved your azzes TWICE . . . . .

Next time . . . we should tell YOU to "fight YOUR own war . . . "

Dan in Miami


Thomas
Why do Democrats and Libs insist on screwing up all foreign relations by presenting themselves like common idiots to the worlds leaders.

Everyone outside America already hates us and people like Obama have only made the hurt caused by the Bush war even worse by acting like complete retards to those who have the decency to aid us.


sheetwowsheet
mmmmmmm didn't the UK go to war with Germany and expect the US to back them up? Why is that any different? And for 15 years service, your illiteracy shows itself unfortunately - loosing?


Spud
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Are you referring to WW II?


oldmarine08
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The war was started by a world coalition not the US, it was the world that went to war in Iraq not just the US, supported and progressed by the UN and the 17 resolutions that were not adhered to, as well as the violation of te UN No Fly Zone Restriction.

Yes we care about your service as well as those that you lost like we do our own, and thank you for your service as well. However, do some research about how it all started before posting innuendo on here!


you'llneverwalkalone
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coz there army is crap , fact british have best army in world


Mark w/a "K"
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If it wasn`t for "America", you`d be posting this idiotic question in GERMAN.


zaphod73@att.net
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I hear ya...but if we would have concentrated our efforts on Afghanistan instead of letting Bush lie and get us involved in Iraq, this whole deal may have been a lot different. (I simply blame the idiot we had as President for 8 years. I can't apologize for the dolt but I can certainly share your sympathies.)


seamstress
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Think of each country who are allies as individual friends.
Think of each country who are trouble from the start as enemies.

Friends need support to protect mankind from enemies.


casimir2121
Hello,

This is a loaded question to begin with but I would like to say that the only reason we ask other nations to back us is so its gives international ligitimacy to otherwise suspect interventionist policies. Every major nation asks for allies not simply to help militarily but rather to get a sort of justification for its actions in the first place.

That said, Britain could stay home and not agree. They join the US on every mission because it has one foot in America and the other in Europe. It does not want to join the EU, it cannot stand alone, and it cannot put all its chips with the Americans. Perhaps if it still had a sovereign government loyal to its people and not the Bank of England the situation may be different. As for war starting, if you take a look around the globe at most of the bloodiest ethnic conflicts you see the left over hand of the British Empire in its wake. From Palestine, Ireland, Sri Lanka, India/Pakistan to even the very founding of the US.

One final note here. Many of you need a History lesson. The British would not be speaking German anything. Hitler never had any intention of conquering Britain. His aim was always to have America dominating the western hemisphere, the British keeping its overseas empire, and the Reich dominating Eurasia. As for WW1, the only reason America entered the war is because the Bank of England was not going to be able to pay back its debts to our bankers. We funded the entire war effort for France and Britain and since by 1917 it was clear that Germany would prevail without US intervention, we came to the rescue to make sure once you won you could pay back your loans.

In conclusion, many of us know why we ask you to join in our advantures, but one might ask why do you guys always agree!?


Mr. Smith
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Because we are allied with you and you guys willing back us up, not like we are holding a gun to your head or anything..........


Violation Notification
This question is pointless, they don't.


"In 1914, and you "lads" were getting cut to pieces by the Kaiser's troops in the trenches . . . . WHO came to help you out?

In 1940, when you "lads" were getting their azzes shot out of the sky by the Lufwaffe . . . and WHO came to help you out?"

Americans joined WW1 in 1917, hardly effecting the outcome of the war.

In WW2 Americans joined in 1941, a bit late to be saying "we are the reason you won the war". Granted, US efforts were vital to the allies success however you can not say, like many people seem to be doing, that America is the reason the allies won. To be honest with you I believe Hitler's declaration of war against the soviet union was a more vital aspect for the allies victory than America's input was. Fighting on the eastern front crippled the Nazis and brought about the end to Hitler's regime.

I also highly doubt that America joined the war for the sole purpose of helping the British out. Have you ever thought what it would be like now if Europe was under Nazi control? I doubt America would be the same super power it is today.


Wayne B
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you would't have said that in WW2.





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