Why does the general public not understand that we cant just pack up and walk out of Iraq.?
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Why does the general public not understand that we cant just pack up and walk out of Iraq.?
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We buried my brother Randy who was killed in Afganistan on July 9. Everybody I met who attended the funeral understood it, then I saw some protesters along the roadside waving signs denegrating his sacrifice. Are our young people really that ignorant and naieve about the realities of armed conflict? Additional Details Hathor the funeral announcement was posted on the web, released by the DOD to news media, and in the local paper. We had the service at the Air Force Academy Chapel.
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ME!
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Because people listen to the media more than common sense. You hear these people on talk shows talking about how bad everything is and how we need to get out of there as fast as humanly possible, but it's only people that want atention that get atention. People think because something is said on national telivision that it must be true, when in reality, people go on those things because they know people will listen to it because it's told by our "so reliable media." If we were to just pack our bags, and come strait home, we kill ourselves because we are now allowing people in hiding to cause terror and destruction on the iraqi and afgan people, not to mention regroup. Another thing people don't understand is that these terrorest and such people are devoted to killing people who don't believe what they believe, which is anyone who believes in america, or anyone who believes people should have the right to be diferent, or have there own beliefs.
And yes, our "young people" realy are that ignorant, and naieve. People become easly brain washed to the point where they let others decide what is right. Me, i studdy a couple things independently...history, goverment, polotics, and science. Science was not used throughout my opinionatied answer, but the others were, this has a point to it...
...todays young people also are easly swade by what people have to say because they are not well enough informed, they only here what is said on the TV, and the radio, and therefore don't think enough for them selves.
To put this in to more of a perspective...I am 15 years old, i am a "YOUNG PERSON," and i am not NAIEVE, or IGNORANT, ok, mabye a little ignorant, but my point is that if a "young 15 year old person" can think on there own, and not let other people do so for them, WHY CAN'T A GROWN PERSON DO THAT...i've heard people say that if the future is going to be controled by my generation, than the world is in for a world of hurt, but i'm thinking that if our futures are bleak, it's not all my generations fault. In other words, not all young people are so ignorant and naive that the world is uncontrolably doomed, but we are going to need some help from the truth through the media. In the future, it won't be the ignorant naieve people running the world. They'll be the talk show hosts. |
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Triumph
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I'm sorry to hear about your brother, man. There's no good reason at all to do something so insensitive like that at anyone's funeral. |
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Cleetus C
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What they don't understand is that if we pull out suddenly, it will be just a matter of time before we will have to go back in.
And then it could be even worse, requiring a draft and these nimrods would find their sorry butts getting a draft notice. |
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joe4912004
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My condolences for your loss. The protesters are anti American partisan political misfits. Please tell your family that there are many of us out here who honor and support our military and honor your brother's service and morn his passing with you. |
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Bre
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im very sorry for your loss.
well i used to think that we should take what we need and get the f out but then my dad told me something that i agreed with. if we just pull out then the whole world will know us Americans are panseys and we cant afford that. not to mention we screwed up the community for the iraqis so we need to fix it and make it a better place since we decided to put out nose in there business in the first place. |
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bravozulu
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Sorry for your loss and I would like to express my sincere gratitude for his service. Some of the young people are amazingly stupid but we weren't born wise. The vast majority of people and even young people would support the sacrifice your brother made. |
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Chris P
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I think most americans understand it........what the mainstream media portrays doesn't represent most americans |
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Matthew E
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Some %&@# people let themselves get brainwashed by the media. I wish that you diden't have to go through the loss of your bro and the mindless sign wavers. |
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E-5 Marine
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Dude thats the bandwagon they jump on. Sorry for your bro, nad sorry for the protestors. Just remember that they are trying to do good as well. Your bro followed his path and died defending his country and don't let ANYONE tell you different than that! |
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hanibal turkey
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my condolences your brother is a hero in my eyes
because they simply havent been there and or havent served and do not know the situation in full the general public knows the basics that peps are getting killed over there and its not pretty and then you have all these protestors and the works they just want it all to end and want the easy way out
sadily i hate to say it but this war and all other wars tend to cause political and religious wars with in our own back yard it breaks my heart to see a nation so divided when we need to respect eachother |
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Brian
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Sorry about your brother, there is no freaking way those protestors had any right to do that..if i had an ak, i;d do my own little drive my on them (jk)
but the deal with iraq is that the goverment is just trowing money away on companies like halliburton, blackwater and yadaya yada... yeah i saw loose change..and it makes perfect sence..
Good luck choose best answer..there's a lot here ^ X2 about the oil Industry.
we are in iraq as of now, maybe to restore a dem. govt but we sure are as hell wasting billions and some how making money or i dont know wtf the gov't is doing.
im 18, i've believe this for years.. bush was right to go in to take sadam out of power...after a while he was just making sure his cabinet got the goods. |
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Mogakai
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It's purely political. It's just something to rally against. Goals with no suggestions on how to achieve them are proposed all the time. |
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Blitzkrieg
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Im an MP in the Army and sorry to hear about your loss. We have a society that only cares about themselves. We give people way too much freedoms that they dont deserve in the first place. Only people that have loved ones, friends or been in the military understand the sacrifice. Im 21 and it really makes me wonder where our young people are headed. All those that died in combat for this country will always be remembered. Every time i see the red stripes in the U.S. flag, its the blood of the fallen that keeps the flag flying |
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writersbIock2006
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Its not a matter of nt understanding it--more than its the american public is fed up with the loss of lives.
Sorry about your brother, and there shouldnt be picketers at a funeral.
But heres the thing...a phased redeployment is possible.
A withdrawal back home is one thing--but whos ever talked about that?
We have unfinished business to take care of.
We need to find those responsible for 9/11 ..and an overwhelming force deployment in Afgan is whats needed to make that happen.
So, its not as easy as people think, but then again, it can be.
but until we start fighting those repsonsible for 9/11 this whole failure in IRAQ doesnt make sense...tats what Im fed up with, and cant comprehend |
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Tommy B
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First off, may God bless and comfort your family. Losing an immediate family member is the most painful grief anyone can feel.
Second, we could "just pull out." Like we did in N. Korea and Vietnam and Desert Storm. Hell, we could have pulled out of WW2, WW1, the Civil War or the Revolutionary War. What threat did our rightful sovreign, King George pose to us? What threat did the Confederate States pose to the U.S.? What threat did Kaiser Wilhelm pose to us? What threat did Hitler pose to us? ( Think before you leap at that last one, how could Hitler have crossed the Atlantic Ocean against the largest, most advanced Navy on Earth, and maintain a supply line fighting 150 million Americans on well-infrastructured U.S. soil?)
These neo-hippies will never understand how a demonstrated willingness to fight for a just cause against bad men is the best disincentive against future tyranny around the world. Don't take my word for it, look at where we have backed down:
How did the Russian people fare for 80 years while we left them to their own affairs? 50 million dead. How about the Chinese? 65 million killed. North Korea? What do you think? Vietnam? Ask the relatives of the three million slaughtered in the wake of our "honorable" withdrawal from southeast Asia how they feel about our national conscience.
If a gang was killing people in your neighborhood, would you try to stop them or simply say that they pose no threat to your house, so its not your problem?
Why are the allegedly "sensitive" liberals so insensitive to the suffering of ordinary people around the world in countries which terrorize their subjects? Why is fascism so evil to pinkos, yet any other form of totalitarianism is just a fact of life we have to accept? Because leftists are the biggest hypocrites alive. When Nicole Simpson was killed, they screamed for justice. What about some poor Arab girl of 14 who was raped on camera, then killed for the sadistic purposes of Saddam Hussein? Why is her death so meaningless to the "conscientious" left? Are they really that racist, clannish or nationalistic?
My father, a Vietnam vet, says, "Sometimes, defending your world is more important than defending your country."
My father is a hero to me. |
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bigdaddy33
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Because all they see of the war is what the media portrays |
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Sehr_Klug 50
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Most of them (young soldiers) were born after the Vietnam and Korean conflicts....
I am honestly sorry for your loss, I mean it, I lost two brothers in the German front (We are german) and I know what it is like...
IN regard as leaving irak...My guess is that, it was a gross miscalculation of the higher echelons of the government, to predict a potentially dangerous situation....
That Invasion should have never taken place ....(my personal opinion)...it costs Many, many lives in both sides....
And really.....for what?--- |
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mindoversplatter
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I'm sorry to hear about your brother and I appreciate his sacrifice and the loss you must endure. In my opinion protesting at anyone's funeral for any reason is intolerable. I've never witnessed it happen and I shudder to think what might if I did. Especially when the one being buried has fallen in the line of duty in an effort to aid and/or protect those protesting along with their rights to make such a protest.
As far as 'understanding' about pulling out of Iraq I can only speak from a historical perspective. We really couldn't just pack up and walk out of Vietnam either, but we did. And, just about all of the arguments I'm hearing today on why we shouldn't pull out of Iraq are the same ones I heard about pulling out of Vietnam. Personally I don't support a 'pull out' but I won't be surprised if it happens.
What I do understand is that politics in this country have become so polarized that giving an inch, right or wrong, to the other side is harmful to your party and requires that the other side be shown as politically impotent even if they want to do the 'right' thing. One party may need to stop the other party from doing the 'right' thing so they can do it themselves and get the credit for having done it. |
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harPOON capt uss TANG
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They just want Americans to stop dying. They don't want the next brother.
I'm a military guy/vet. I am pro military. I know we can't pull. These people (candy@sses) think they are helping.
It does seem that the public influenced can help stop war. We both know it's not that simple.
I honor you and your brothers sacrafice. As do I honor all Americians that fought because their country asked them to.
The freedom they fought for allows me to write to you, whether I agree or not. I do agree but I wish this war was done.
Thank you |
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Hathor
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How did the protestors know about your brother? |
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Nick V
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Where's Osama? Did your Brother die looking for Osama, or did he die making Afganistan safe for Exxon oil pipelines to the Caspian Sea?
We are tired of watching nice guys like your brother die for oil companies profits.
I think you are naive about the realities of armed conflict. Nobody tells the truth better than General Smedley Butler, USMC, one of the most highly decorated military men from the pre-World War II era. He served from 1898 to 1931 and saw action all over the world.
He wrote an excellent essay called "War is a Racket" which explains that every single military conflict the US has ever been involved in had economic roots and causes.
In "War is a Racket" Butler “names names” and lays out in wonderfully blunt detail how the American “military machine” was used to the benefit of wealthy American industrialists. He noted how proponents of war typically call on God as a supporter of the cause and how they embellish the mission as one of liberation and the spreading of freedom, but that these people tend to shy away from discussing the economic details of military ventures.
Sound Familiar?
From the essay: "I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers* in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.
During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”
*Note that Brown Brothers Harriman employed a certain Prescott Bush at this time, who eventually was found guilty of war racketeering and trading with the enemy (selling oil and steel to Hitler). Guess it runs in the family.
Where's Osama? Nobody cares, Exxon and Halliberton have just had record profit quarters. Did they come to your brother's funeral?
I really am sorry. My condoleances to your family. Peace protesters want senseless deaths like that of your Brother to stop.
My life hasn't gotten any better since the war started. Has yours? What did your brother sacrifice for? Money you'll never see.
PS: I am a USAF veteran 1980-85 |
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Any Republican 2012
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They don't think about that stuff, and they don't care. It's purely about political gain. |
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meow
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its not about ur brothers honer. its about the reason we are over there. we have to leave slowly cuz we need to get the f*** out ! |
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bettercockster2
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Steven, let me first express my condolences for the lost of your brother.
Yes, we can just p/u and leave Iraq, it's that easy. A lot of people would be killed but that's no different than the last 5 years. We are going to leave that country within the next 2-3 years anyway, what diference does it make if you do it now or later.
Secondly, as tax payers, we have a right to decide if this war is simply too expensive for us to bear. I personnally am not willing to bankrupt mycountry for the Iraqi people. |
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pluto
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i'm sorry your brother was killed looking for al-qaida in afgan. when it's really in saudi arabia. I think the people that harass dead soldiers families are sick and don't do much to help their cause. in the end the usa will support a coup in iraq a sunni pro exxon pro-saudi saddam will take over. the usa will pull out of both iraq and afgan. it'll take time to pull out. but it will be political not military whenever it happens. the only victory is control of the oil. |
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