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The ROCK
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They've already won all the oil. What else do they need to win? |
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Ringo G.
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Nope, it's as unwinnable a war as Vietnam was, the only question is how many people have to die before this is admitted. |
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Jess
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its not a game, there is no "winning". |
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Rckets
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I used to think so, not anymore. You can't win a war against a phantom enemy. Plus Iraq can even control itself. You have two factions in Iraq that are fighting each other, yet both sides seem to have American hatred in common. It now appears we are wasting our time there and we should just let all the fanatics blow themselves up if that's what they really want. |
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nikola s
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Where there is no vision the people perish |
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wooper
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We won the war. How else would we be in Baghdad? Our military overwhelmed the Iraqi military.
The problem is, we are not very good policemen in a civil war. |
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Richard V
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What would "win in Iraq" look like?
Could the French ever "win" in Algeria?
You cannot "win" by Occupying a country. There was never a suicide bombing in Iraq, nor an al Qaeda presence in Iraq, until after the 2003 U.S. Military invasion and occupation.
Forget what the politicians say, read this extensive report of interviews of United States soldiers who served in Iraq:
(thanks to US Soldier, Q-burt and all the troops in Iraq that post here, I value your input above all others) |
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sbouji
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no. hands down. history even proves that when you invade a foreign country, you dont win. |
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mJc
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We already accomplished what we originally went in to do. Check for weapons of mass destruction (none to be found), remove Hussain from power (done), and provide the people of Iraq with the opportunity to vote in their own government (done). We should have left two years ago. Enough is enough. Al Quaida is beefing up in Pakistan, not Iraq. We need to protect America... HERE at home. |
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US soldier
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There is no winning this war, its long lost and now we are trying to survive a civil war which we are stuck right dab in the middle of.The war was miss handled right from the start and if it was handled correctly and if bush would have listen to his advisers he would very likely have a different out come for this war.Ever person who says it winnable has not been there and has no idea what its like on the ground.What soldiers deal with each and every day and whats told on TV and on the ground is different.We are doing good things there but the people of Iraq don't see it as we would.We are supporting a government there that wont even do their share of the work that they said publicly that they would do.Their troops cant be trusted worth a grain of salt and its just a blackhole for money and death. |
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Dan H
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One of the ways in which history repeats is that when one side changes the nature of warfare, such as when the American revolutionaries took on the Indian tactic of attacking in an irregular line from concealed positions against the British who were lined up in red coats, the innovator always wins.
We invaded, we tried to impose a completely new method of thought and governance on them. We are depriving them of basic utilities. There is no way that we can win, no way that they will submit to our plan for them.
It's really too bad that the people who understand how to run the country are all busy cutting hair, tending bar and driving taxis. |
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EJ Lonergan
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More and more regular Iraqis citizens are standing up and pointing out the "insurgents" amongst them and cooperating with the US forces.
They are tired of the Jihadists tearing their country apart and not allowing them to get on with life and build a tomorrow.
So I would say we are right around the corner from being in a much stronger position where we can pull back and allow the Iraqi army and civil policing forces to do all the day to day "policing" of the region.
Best Regards. |
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Lance B
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no. we won't. in this issue of rolling stone, they say that close friends of dubya have said that he wants this war to last up to 50 years. |
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Red Death 266
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Politics & Greed can not overcome relougion & that's what we are fighting We beat Saddam that was Politics now are Friends of the Military are in a no win situation Pray for are boy's to come home safe Pray for the souls in that country also & maybe someday the leaders of the world will fight the battles themselves then they might think twice about life |
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Nik
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Why are the Iraqi dragging their feet about getting their government up and running unless they want us there. Don't listen to the media hype, they will not tell you of the Iraqi economic progress, or that the death toll of the insurgents are at least seven times greater than our own and very often carrying Syrian identification.
What will probably happen is we will strike up a deal, we will get oil at a reduced price and they will get us to set up a permanent military base; for us we protect our interest in cheap oil, for them they get sort of a rented military protection from other countries as well as from within. |
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gugliamo00
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Depends on what you mean...
If you mean a military victory... probably not. We're not fighting that kind of war. There is no "front." The enemy refuses to face us in combat. There is no way to stop insurgents who want to die.
If you mean rid the country of a tyrannical dictator... Done.
If you mean give the country back to the Iraqi people... Pretty much done.
If you mean rebuild an infrastructure that has was destroyed by the dictator on his way out... and which has been ravaged by war... Work in Progress--in spite of the insurgents.
If you mean peace and stability.... Not within our sphere of endeavor. Peace and stability have to come from the people there.
If you mean install a government friendly to the US... While we would certainly like that, that too is up to the Iraqi people.
If you mean establish an inexpensive source of oil... Have you ever heard of OPEC?
If you mean remove the threat of WMD... Done. Whether or not one cares to admit it, there was a threat. Israel dove for it's safe rooms every time Hussein blinked. Turkey was on edge. Even parts of southern Russia felt as if they were under the gun. If I walk into a bank and hand the teller a note saying that I'll make the place look like a morgue if she doesn't fill my bag with money, it doesn't make make any difference whether I actually have a weapon or not. There is a threat. The reason Iraq wasn't part of Syria, or Saudi Arabia, or any of a number of countries that would like their oil, is because of that threat. |
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phil f
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Not the war we were told that we would win. |
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Q-burt
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There is no "win" here. As a Soldier, I came to that conclusion before the end of year one.
What I would like to see before a withdrawal is a standing government, strong infrastructure, and a competent police and military.
Once Iraq has reached those four goals I will be screaming at the top of my lungs to leave, until then, I will support the mission. |
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perdu dans mon esprit
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win? pft...no one wins. the real question is when and where does it end? does it end? |
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fourwheeln05
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You have 21 answers prior to mine. How many times in the press do we hear this question? To win the war we must do this, To turn the favor we must do this, or if we can't get them to allow us to have this amount of oil from here we will have take this from here. I do not see it happening anytime soon. In 2008 a Quagmire will be handed over to our next President and another year or more of finger pointing. Our men and women will be still be standing in a bloodbath in two countries, potentially three by then. After that, what will we have to look forward to? I am not looking to win the war. I just want our people out of there. We don't belong there. |
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ryang5420
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With the Government changing their idea of "winning" daily yes, but realistically it is impossible from this point. |
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Andrew W
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No. it will slide into a stale mate, then the next US presdident will call it a victory and withdraw troops.
Then the real civil / regional war will begin.
All that will change is that no US soldiers are dying as a direct result of the conflict. |
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MISES.ORG
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NO
Only high debts, death and disaster
Politicians and well connected have the credit .....................
and they are looking for war in Iran ............. |
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Dowahdiddy
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You being a liberal...NO! |
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7
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win? if you consider slaughtering thousands of ppl winning, then soon |
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ohiofirefighter42
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Define win |
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CHUCK D
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This "WAR"in Iraq is President George Walker Bush's war, not this country's! I feel, as I did when we decided to go into Viet Nam that, going into Iraq was a grave mistake!!! As many of my Senior Citizen friend's say: 'This country's economy thrives on war. As far as I'm concerned, we should allow the commanders to let the troops come home by January of two thousand eight. |
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rotc nazi
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i wouldn't say that you could win this war just help the Irauqi people get rid of the bad guys, and help them rebuild there country because after hitler left they had no-one telling them what to do, so they don't know how to defend themselves. |
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Nicole M
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This is for the people who are saying that we will win this war and also saying that we have won.. That is not the right answer we will not win this war and this is what happens when you doing listen to the type of people that we vote into office when Bush was running for President the first time he was talking about going to war. He did this for his dad to get Saddam off of his daddy's back and another thing is their oil. The troops should have gotten pulled out of Iraq when Saddam was capture and hung. Alot of people are being killed of this mess and think about this these people don't care about us cause they think this a holy war to them men will kill their wives and their children. So think about that when those words come across you |
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Landonz Mommie
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most likely not, and it wont be over until bushwhack gets out of office |
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Taylor W
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all we can do is try we have people risking their lives to protect us so just be patient cause i have faith! |
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