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What says we actually have to abide by the law?

As a people(I live in the UK) we do not take an oath to abide by the law in the same manner as say a US citizen does so what actually holds us bound under what the law says we should do? surely as we have not agreed to the laws governing the country (these are decided by government and peers and as a token, by the queen) why do they actually bind us. Unless the government can prove that each of us have individually accept its right to governance, how can they prosecute us under the Law.

I dont mean this to sound like some kind of anarchist rant, because it isn't. I would really like to know by what mechanism the government and police legally enforce their powers.

Looking forward to your answers.


    




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No idea but their wigs are ******* funny.


ruthaford_jive
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The only thing that keeps laws in affect is the people's will to want to live in a society ruled by law, and they all agree upon those laws for the most part to abide by. In the end the society we live in is meaningless, nothing but a bunch of agreed upon norms and traditions that would fall apart if most everyone decided that they've had enough. Collective will and desire keep the system afloat. Just like money, if we automatically stopped thinking the money was worth anything it would instantly be worth nothing.


Croxx
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Just look at our foundation in law in Britain - common law, Magna Carta etc.

There are plenty of examples of why we have laws and the rights of the people of these isles.

Fought for over the last 1000 odd years.

Society does need rules & laws to exsist. What we have experienced over the last decade is complete ignorance by government of dealing with new labours selective Utopian dream based on spin, lies & taxation.

Under this government and their phoney ideals, despite there being more laws there is no space left to encaserate you..

There is no better time to break the law alas.


Lesharo
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Lockean philosophic tradition described as "social contract", which to this day is implied in nearly every legal system in the Western World:

http://www.iep.utm.edu/s/soc-cont.htm

Though not written in ink, we abide by it for the survival of society. And not just on a national level, but an international one. As Locke would say, there is even a social contract among nations.


CuriousJ
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It's an interesting question. But surely it's along the lines of the chicken and the egg? If the whole structure only came into being yesterday, then you would have a right to say I don't accept it therefore it has no power over me. But these structures predate you, and so your very continued existence here pre-supposes that you accept them. You live in a constitutional democracy, and so therefore the will of the majority prevail through the work of their chosen representatives - the houses of commons and lords and by extension through the judiciary. They set the rules and you have to abide by them. You personally may not accept those rules. If you want to change them then you have to convince a majority of the population to act with you and so overthrow the current structures.


falk
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social responsibility. & more importantly, personal conscience.
that, or someone decides, since they swore no oath to abide by law, they can break & enter with impunity.
they do so & find someone waiting in the dark, sighting down an arrow or gun at them, with at least one large snarling dog awaiting the order to attack. thunk/bang! "kill'im!" ROOOWWARRRRR!
dead burglar coming up. fries with that?


Gravy
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You don't actually have to abide by the law -- the written laws only spell out what happens if you don't, so by staying on one side of the law you're really only acting in your own best interest. It isn't very different from "having" to keep away from an open flame. You aren't explicitly required not to touch it, but you will if you know what's good for you.

That there is a government at all is one of the constitutional foundations of a country, and it asserts itself often through its enforcement bodies. In liberal democracies, the members of the cast change but the script never does.


raviet31
US citizens as a rule do not pledge to uphold the law or defend the constitution. Certain jobs may require you to do that, I had to when I joined the Army.

However the first poster is correct, he who has the gold makes the rules. So, if you choose to break the law, be prepared to pay the consequences, unless of course you have enough gold to make the law.


fritya56
top down , s*i£ rolls down hill , it is handed down , you will obey , this is the law of this Kingdom if you don't like it we are sorry you are disillusioned , take it up with your parents or push off as we have made it easy for you to relocate to Europe . BYE . (Nor does the U.S. )


rommel
good question. deserves a star.......i have no idea what binds us within the law except for basic common sense.


Robert Holland
YOU WAS BORN TO IT
thats there and the assumption


wrathofkahn03
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golden rule...those who have the gold make the rules....


Zoe R
Force. Behind every law ever enacted by any civilisation is the threat of force. It is the final mechanism whereby the wishes of the majority determine the actions of a minority.

In "civilised" cultures, the threat of force is hidden behind layers of tradition or euphemism, but it is still there.

Break any law long enough, refuse to comply and you will get to meet large men with guns.


Michael C
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What you are refering to is the theory of the Social Contract. There has been a lot of work done by political philosphers on this. The best know are "Leviathan" by Hobbs, and the works of John Locke.


gustavo6723
Since the dawn of time,people who lived as a community always went by some code of behavior. They followed the rules and were included in the bounty of the village or community,but when they misbehaved,they were made examples of by banishment, physical torture, or even death.
We as a community allow others to be placed in positions of authority such as police,judges,juries to protect us from harm.
It's these entities that cannot exist without our cooperation,our permission or authority. Kind of like a symbiotic circle.
Even in a police state,there's still some sort of cooperation by the people even if it is thru fear and intimidation.


octogen
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Hi!! We are governed by the Political Rights,as laid down in the Magna Carta,by King John at Runnymede in 1215 contained in the Document of English Constitutional Practice.
Ever since that time the elected government of the day has the right to lay down the laws, and we are obligated to obey them.
Hope this answers your Q to your satisfaction.


adriano
most important thing in a country.Everybody should abide by law,and those who do not do it should be punished severely,irrespective of their position.





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