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How stupid can the Americans be?

Yet again we have another friendly fire incident in Iraq!!! has anybody seen and heard the full tape? There was NO confirmation that there was NO friendlies in the area where the P-51s were, both pilots thought they saw "orange panals" which they then changed to "orange rockets" which is the friendly colour! there were 4 vehichles in a convy evenly spaced. Is it me or would that not ring alarm bells saying that they are friendlies??


Yet again the Americans have killed a Brit in a war zone! I now think it is time to call ALL OUR FORCES HOME, and let the Americans do it on their own. This can do no good in relations with them.


What do you think?


    




roadwarrior
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Too bad... The evidence is so strong that the U.S. cannot blame it on Iran....


amiguita_malu
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I keep wondering what is the point of this war.
Will it ever end?
Why are the killgns continuing? Can we get any more stupider?


LuckyChucky
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Sorry, about the casualty, but I think you guys are victims of terrorism too, I don't think we should carry the burden all by our selves. I think we saved you guys from air-raids before.


Daniel K
Well the US Gov has made bad decissions in Iraq and elsewhere, most of the world thinks as Us as stupid idiots. They should not be there. But the americans are trying to stop violence and protect citizens in iraq from being beaten, killed for no reason, and killing sadam was just 1 out of 100 left there. This all started in the early 1980's and even late 70s. So they should finsh what they had started, and personally the U.S. is the only one who look out for anybody, they have best trained troops, britzs just don't know what is going on at the right time, not saying they dont help but they should beaware what there stepping into. Well it should be interresting to see how things change in iraQ and elsewhere when GW. B steps out of office.

I heard that they have a women running for pres, and a black, should be interssting,
Who do you think will win, and what might happen?


Relax Guy
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Yea because your so experienced in an A-10 and could easy tell that everything was clearly marked and evenly spaced at 250 mph. Shut up and get out of Ireland.


Paul Hxyz
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I am an American, and I wish to confirm that SOME of us can be VERY stupid - just not ALL of us. The U.S. does indeed need to get out of Iraq, but the U.S. started this mess, and the U.S. needs to insure that Iraq is relatively stable before it leaves or a bloodbath even worse than what is going now is going to ensue. An estimated 70% of Americans want us out of there as soon as possible. Most Americans are now aware of the manipulations of the Bush Administration to get us into this war - the deliberate use of faulty and misleading intelligence, ignoring what they didn't want to hear, not paying attention to their advisors, firing the generals that didn't play along with the administration... no wonder President Bush now "enjoys" the lowest approval ratings of any U.S. president in history - he deserves it. BTW: I have UK ancestry. My sincerest condolences to the family and friends of the soldier that was killed.


booboo
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If you talk to anyone about war, friendly fire happens, and not just to the US, a battlefield is very chaotic place and things like this happen.
( to everybody! ) not just the US. But we all know the anti-war ranters need something to rant about. If you want to pull your forces fine, that's what you have been banging to drums for for ever anyway, and this just gives another (supposed ) justification,but when the s--t hits the fan,(and it's going to) we just won't help because we may kill somebody by accident. Also there have been many, many examples over the years of us doing it to
our own people, and so have the British. So all I can say is, it's
tragic but it's war and it happens.


curtis s
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well thats uhh kinda nice of you to judge us americans like that but it takes one to know one!!!!!!!!


DeeDee w
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sorry for your loss. i'm a very proud american! i'm proud of the fact we saved your buts in ww11,and i'm proud of the fact that when you come running to america in the future for protection we will be here with open arms. fyi 298000 american soldiers killed in ww11


Dundee Blue Eyes
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Not all Americans are stupid. Just the ones in charge of the country and the military.
Far too ready to shoot at anything not waving the stars and stripes if you ask me.


bonsaibob999
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When are the Brits going to get out of Ireland and pay reparations for all the murders they committed during their imperialistic past?

...and you think Americans are stupid!


aℓanah.♥
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Hey I'd watch it. When you go to war it's not like everyone you want to comes back alive! How do you think we feel? We've lost hundreds of people in war! It may have been a bad mistake, but not everyone is perfect!


Samy
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i think your a dumb ***


phxfet
P-51s? If the British are still flying WWII planes then I think that perhaps.... "they are of no help." The truth of it is that, although I cherish our British commrades in arms, we are doing it all by ourselves.


yik yak
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DEDE Classic from you there..Americans saved the Brits asses in WW11..Totally agree however America had other reasons for becoming involved in WW11 look it up kid ;-)


frank S
This latest incident seems to be a case of incompetence or negligence on the parts of the pilots. They could not agree whether what they were seeing was orange marked friendly forces or orange missiles.

As there was a doubt I would have thought that they would have erred on the side of safety especially as they were not being fired upon.


Dylan m
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this is tragic I have not read about it yet tho. With todays new weapons friendly fire is going to happen. In the old days if you couldn't see your enemy you couldn't hurt them, now we can kill at distances of 100's of miles. To be honest, everyone in Iraq should come home now... its a crappy civil war. if the leaders who be insist on still doing something, divert all the troops to Afghanistan and get Bin Laden


pachl@sbcglobal.net
Hmmmm.... in the heat of battle a mistake was made. Wow! Let's alert the press.

Let's talk about how stupid the British can be. They naively gave Stalin machinery and technology he needed to complete the nuclear bomb. Stalin is recorded as literally laughing his *** off at them. He can't believe they are so stupid.

Ok, now we're even.

Why not talk about how smart and resourceful Americans and Brits can be? We had Ronald Reagan, and you had Margaret Thatcher, a woman many Americans thoroughly admired.

Britain is a relatively small country, but has contributed a vastly, disproportionately greater amout to the world.

And y'all should be happy we don't make fun of the way you speak. I reckon' we could whoop it up, a hootin' and a hollerin' but we ain't gonna embarrass you like that, partner.


bob
i think you are not looking at this logically,sure it was a tragedy that this young man was killed but this is war my friend s h i t happens.it ain't nice and it ain't clever but it is war.have you never made a mistake in work.and btw im english


DanUK
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It is of course tragic, but we have done the same to them.War is war what do u expect.there is know pretty picture in any war.


iceprincess
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NEED I REMIND YOU HOW MANY TERRORIST BOMBS HAVE GONE OFF IN YOUR COUNTRY BY TERRORIST AND THE INCIDENT OF THE WERE YOUR COUNTRY MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO TAKE LIGUIDS ON PLANES!!! If you want to bail like the French did and let the terroirst continue to blow your people up in your country then so be it.


sara
this is a very unfortuanate situation, they should have waited for confirmation or they should have lowered themselves into a better position too see, but i have to say, fighting a war is very different to a small piece of transcript you see on tv, there were other things they should have done but in the heat of war, adrenaline does funny things to you, esp when you are told to assume that all moving things are potential enemies.


justme
I watch the news most every night here in the USA and we don't see that much reporting on what our allies are doing or making for stupid mistakes. It would be nice for all of the servicemen and women to be home but it just isn't going to happen overnight. Your PM involved your country in this war so maybe you should give some blame to him as well. A lot of Americans have British heritage so maybe the apple didn't fall far from the tree.


DAVE
A question to inflame our American cousins no doubt, but valid nontheless. Generally agreed. A right mess that Britain has colluded with to everyones dismay.


Bad M
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It is a tragedy if what you said is true.

However, in war mistakes & bad things happen. Always have, always will. On all sides. Do you think NO British soldiers have died from friendly fire from other British troops? Are you really that gullible?


amazin'g
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You are entitled to your opinion, but the U. S. and Great Britain have been close allies for a long time. With reason. Mistakes, no doubt have been made on both sides - maybe this is one of them, I don't know for sure. But, Great Britain just may need a strong ally like the U.S. again in the future as it has in the past. Many, many American soldiers sacrificed their lives in defense of Great Britain during WW II, and would do so again, if the need arose! Strong alliances must weather mistakes and setbacks for the long term good of both.


john b
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You are all mixed up...there is friendly fire in every war that is fought, and this one is no different.


tbird
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I think before you can be so boisterous about this incident, you need to get your facts. You have know idea what was going on before this happened. We have had the enemy use our own uniforms and shoot our soldiers acting like they were one of us. So to use orange panels, I am sure that the enemy has tried this or are doing it and possibly even set this up and made it to be friendly fire with some sort of tactics like shooting at the jets from behind rocks beside that convoy and the jets thought the convoy was firing on them. The insurgents are using old time tactics to kill us and are doing a very good job with limited resources. We have got to start thinking like them if we want to be successful in this war!


pookiemct07
I think I'm tired of Americans being looked at as a whole rather than as individuals. You generalize too much. It's rude.


vlad III the impaler
having had experience of the American military, I was telling people that the Americans would kill a few Brits, as soon as both Iraq wars were announced. They were just practising I suppose?

The news reported that the Americans had killed more Brits than the Iraqis, during the first stages of the conflict!

It is true that during war mistakes happen! It just seems the Americans are better at making them than anyone else!

and for all Yanks that go on about WWII, well we finished paying you off last year, so leave it out!





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