Is this a criminal offence?

Yellabowley	Again as many have said before me I have no idea what you're asking!! From what I can gather though you may have committed the offence of assault if you slammed the key down in such an aggressive manner as would give the shopkeeper cause to fear that immediate and unlawful violence was going to be used against him. I doubt it would make court but if he makes a complaint the police would be duty bound to investigate it. The shopkeeper reserves the right to refuse service to anyone and this is not a criminal offence in any way, shape or form. So who has committed a criminal offence? You - Maybe Shopkeeper - No

nosdda	How can there be any Criminal offence in what you have tried to explain????

joan k	I really can't understand what your problem is. Of course he can refuse to serve you that's not a criminal offence.

Smiling Carcass	So let me get this straight, you go into a shop. The old fellow lends or gives you an allen key and you take it back saying you donâ€™t want it. He accuses you of being aggressive and threatens to refuse to serve you. Hereâ€™s what Iâ€™d have said. Thank you for trying to be helpful but if I had been unhappy with the terms under which you lent/gave me the allen key I wouldnâ€™t have slammed it on the counter. I would have put it gently on the counter and walked off and left you. Lying there. Seriously, though. Some people get upset if you refuse a favour. Donâ€™t ask me why. Iâ€™m always grateful for any help offered and always offering to help others, even at my own expense. If they refuse my help, ok, I donâ€™t mind. The offer stands if they change their mind. As for criminal offences. If the police were called by you they would not get involved as refusing to serve a customer is at the discretion of the seller. It is a contract entered into by both parties and either party is at liberty not to enter the agreement. If he called the police they would try to ascertain if any damage was done or if threats were made. Since there were not, according to your statement then they would not act. Even if he lied and said you threatened him, they would listen to your side of the story and most likely do nothing in the absence of further evidence, e.g. video evidence or other witnesses. Put it down to experience and take your custom elsewhere, if you feel aggrieved. To those complaining about the poor grammar, please be a little understanding. We don't all have degrees in English and Cleopatra1978 may well be a visitor or other foreign national without the perfect grasp of English you so obviously have. If you have difficulty understanding a question, don't answer it and certainly don't embarrass people by commenting on their lack of ability.

Jim S	I'm having a hard time understanding your question too. If he gave you the allen wrench and expected it back and you didn't return it, then technically, it is a theft offense. Although an petty one, it's still an offense. If you tried to return it, and didn't or wouldn't accept it, then no, it's not an offense. One of the other posters stated that "he has to serve you". NO HE DOESN'T. If it's a private business, as most are, he can serve whomever he wants. He can also refuse to serve you. No different than getting barred from a tavern or restaurant. If he bars you from the business, and you return, he can have you arrested for Trespassing.

gabykawa	I can't understand it. You went into the shop and asked for a key to adjust your bike. Someone from the shop borrowed you one and, after you used, told you to keep it. You refused and left. Then, another day, you asked for a key again and the owner of the shop said that you slammed it on the counter and that he won't allow you into his shop if you do that again. Your husband says that it's ok to give them for free because they have loads of them. I don't see what part involves a criminal offense. Maybe there's a law about any of this events but, from a Libertarian perspective (and human social logic), a crime is damage done to persons or their properties and I don't see a damage here. Were your feelings hurt by his comment? Move on and forget it, there's no real damage. Were his feelings hurt because you slammed the key on the counter (or he perceived you did)? He has to move on and forget, there's no real damage. Besides that... the shop owns the key and if they say you can have it they're entitled to give them away. you're the owner of your own life and if you don't want to accept it you're entitled to refuse the offer. the shop owner owns the shop (hence the word "owner"). If he says that you're not allowed in it or that he won't serve you anymore, he's entitled to do that whatever the reason. Go to another shop. My perception of the problem here is that you go there and borrow the key frequently. It would be a lot easier for them if you take the key and keep it. Not because they don't want to serve you, just because bike shops are usually crowded and people borrowing stuff get in the way and bring no business. Courtesy has its limits. I think that your husband understand the situation and is telling you to take the key. Don't think you're doing them a favor but not taking it. They do that so you don't borrow the key again because it's cheaper to give it away (probably your hubby is right about them having loads) than serving you on a daily basis for free. But I may be wrong, it's hard to read your question...

?	Just boycott this Grumps store in future,,

jimmy_hills_chin	oh my god i don't believe he did that what a barstid tell him to apologise or call the police ,no,no mi5 and 6

hersheba	The shopkeeper is perfectly within his rights to refuse to serve you. Nothing you can do about it.

Omooba44	When and how did you finish school?. I really hope you were not born in the year 1978. Really no one is too big or old to go back to school. Goodluck!

rebel	yeah man

Insomniac	So, from what I can gather, you got a free Allen-key, and this annoys you somehow? I find that strange!

Banned From YA!	I cant understand your question, sorry but its a bit confusing. What did you do?

CJ	I also agree with the lady above me, I could not quite understand what you are saying. Yours, Craig.

The Last Word	Christ, that's one hell of a long sentence. Try some punctuation, so that we may understand what you're on about